So the Boy Scouts did it. Caved under pressure from groups that oppose a ban on openly gay scouts. The first thing that came to my mind was ‘there was a ban on openly gay scouts?’ Seriously? A ban? Like written in their constitution?
If you go to scouting.org and click the about us it reads:
The Boy Scouts of America is one of the nation’s largest and most prominent values-based youth development organizations. The BSA provides a program for young people that builds character, trains them in the responsibilities of participating citizenship, and develops personal fitness.
For over a century, the BSA has helped build the future leaders of this country by combining educational activities and lifelong values with fun. The Boy Scouts of America believes — and, through over a century of experience, knows — that helping youth is a key to building a more conscientious, responsible, and productive society.
Ok, cool, that’s a great description and sounds like a great cause. Don’t know why it’s a program for young ‘people’ as opposed to young men but whatever.
The Boy Scouts pledge reads:
On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.
Well, there it is! Morally straight. Maybe that is where it is written in writing that an openly gay boy can’t be a part of scouts.
Hmmm, not really, there is more detail from: http://www.usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/bsoathlaw.asp
DUTY TO GOD AND COUNTRY: Your family and religious leaders teach you to know and serve God. By following these teachings, you do your duty to God.
Men and women of the past worked to make America great, and many gave their lives for their country. By being a good family member and a good citizen, by working for your country’s good and obeying its laws, you do your duty to your country. Obeying the Scout Law means living by its 12 points.
DUTY TO OTHER PEOPLE: Many people need help. A cheery smile and a helping hand make life easier for others. By doing a Good Turn daily and helping when you’re needed, you prove yourself a Scout and do your part to make this a better world.
DUTY TO SELF: Keeping yourself physically strong means taking care of your body. Eat the right foods and build your strength. Staying mentally awake means learn all you can, be curious, and ask questions. Being morally straight means to live your life with honesty, to be clean in your speech and actions, and to be a person of strong character.
OK, I understand now. The Boy Scouts is a faith based organization and everyone knows that we bible believing, God fearing Christians are against living an openly gay lifestyle. I’m sure that’s it…or is it?
After reading the following from scouting.org I’m kind of under the impression that there was a ban on openly gay scouts for the safety of the scout. Since our country is changing it’s views, and becoming a non God fearing country (may God have mercy on our land) the Scouts think it’s ok to have someone that is openly gay in their troop.
Ok, now it’s my turn to chime in.
Sexuality DOESN’T DEFINE YOU.
Gasp. Can you believe it? No, really, it doesn’t. And last I checked the age of the boy scouts is 7-17 years of age. No need to talk about sex.
And…dumb question but I’ll ask it anyway, what is a gay boy scout? And how do you know? Are there going to be two boys holding hands on trips? Is there going to be a badge that shows you are gay? I would image that prior to this change any flamboyant or feminine boy in the scouts would be treated like any of the troop members. I’m sure that flamboyant boy wouldn’t have hit on anyone else or try and flirt with anyone else. The flamboyant boy wouldn’t go against God or Country…he can’t, it’s in the pledge.
So how do you know if someone is gay as a boy scout?
Quite frankly, sex in ALL respects shouldn’t be talked about at the scout meetings or trips. Gay and Straight alike, can we all agree that sex in the scouts is the farthest thing from what their vision and passion is?
What’s popular now-a-days is people talking about individuality. Give me a break. These folks that talk like this probably never played team sports and don’t understand the value of uniform and unity of one in a group setting. If the scouts have a uniform code, wear the uniform. Hair code, then respect it, or go start your own establishment that may last 100 years like the scouts.
That’s the thing with homosexuality. It consumes all other directives. The pride card is displayed loud and clear to make up for years of persecution. “Boy Scout” is no longer the description. It’s now “Gay Boy Scout”. Which is individualism which doesn’t work in the military, scouts or any other large team activity.
I was shocked that this was news. Shocked that the church would fight to keep a ban (wasn’t shocked that the gay bully groups were pressuring them, they pressure everyone). The church needs to stop trying to bulls-eye homosexuality and fight the rise of all sexuality. Now, in all honesty, that might very well be what they did, I don’t know how the presented their case. My thought is it’s a crazy day that we are bringing up sexuality to a bunch of boy scouts that clearly are living by a different pledge. Go ahead, read it again. There is nothing about sexuality. Sexuality doesn’t define you.
I’d like to see the ban in it’s origin and the context of the before and after text. If someone has that please highlight a link in the comments section so I can check it out.
Aside from satisfying your own urge, there is nothing good about sex outside of marriage. Nothing. That is the message that should be loud and clear. I’ll debate anyone, anytime at any venue on that topic. I was married as a virgin by choice and having that self-control has helped in many many aspects of my life.